A little over a week ago, Rock and Roll Hall-of-Famer Alice Cooper played Pinehurst No. 2 for the first time, coming off the course to give us an immediate take on how golfers should approach Donald Ross’s famed masterpiece.

But that’s not all Cooper had to say. In fact, Cooper was a good friend of Payne Stewart’s, and played a lot of golf with Payne. Cooper tells us what Payne was like on the golf course in those settings – but first lets us in on a little secret about Payne and the harmonica.